Thanks
GTspirit crew

But I do like the Saleen S7. Here one for you folks out there dish out crap about Euro and US.

Ultima GT-R (British kit car with US engines and a German porsch gearbox). Best of both worlds. This car I like.

But why not stop fighting and all come together and make a true universal supercar. Euro do the chassis, US do the engine, Japs do the control systems and electronics and Italians do the styling and the japs build reliability into the car. Aerodynamics? who has the best wind tunnel and aerodynamicist? Suspension and brakes? AP and eibach with ZF sachs, penske or Koni shocks?

That should be enough to challenge not only the F40, but also the Bugatti EB110 and the Lamborghini Diablo, while giving the McLaren F1 a run for the money. But this isn’t Ford’s only aim with the GT90: Its designers are also using it as a techno test bed.The infrared blind-spot warning system, for instance, uses an I-R flood beam in the air scoop. This bounces off objects in the car’s blind spot, triggering a red warning light that flashes in the side mirror. Expect to see this on Ford’s next line of heavy trucks.

Then there are the materials: The gleaming white skin is composite fiberglass and carbon fiber. The body structure is reinforced aluminum. And the exhaust outlets are shielded by tiles like those on the space shuttle.

And the lights are an engineer’s toy box of possibilities: high-intensity discharge headlights with projector-beam parking, turning, and back-up lights; “hot”-fluorescent license-plate and high-mount stop lights; “cold”-fluorescent gauge illumination; and ionized-gas-discharge taillights.

Or Maybe the ME 4-12
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The spectacular quad-turbo, V-12 powered, mid-engine Chrysler ME Four-Twelve super car has roared onto the scene to shine as the most advanced Chrysler ever built.

The ultimate engineering and design statement, and a brilliant example of the Chrysler Group’s capabilities, the ME Four-Twelve will establish a real-world performance record for a rear-wheel drive, mid-engine super car and may also set a record for lightening-quick vehicle development. Taking less than one year to complete from start to finish, the Chrysler Group partnered with some of the best in the business to assist in its development.

he SLR McLaren is the top of the Mercedes [sport] line.. they’ve spent millions on it.. and they’ve spent years on it.. it represents the best of anything Mercedes.

Enter the ME-412.. they took a Mercedes engine.. took it to Mercedes tuner… they spent a year.. and outdid the SLR McLaren..

Chrysler can do in 12 months what it takes Mercedes years.. and not only can it do that, it can do that with their parts for less and better to boot!

Just adding fuel to the fire since you know we dont make technical cars

Yes i know they are not production but when someones comes across like America cant make good cars hmmm obother

America has an unwritten tradition: create affordable, simple cars that can be worked on at home. Make it so, if need be, the average person can work on and fix their car. And improve upon it. And make it their own. Sometimes, reliability is sacrificed, but that gives the owner a chance to change their car and make it different from the next guy. (This has become the rule for Japanese cars, as well, being originally influenced by the musclecar era.)

Europe has, generally, exuded sophistication when it came to their cars. European cars have a simple(not always) elegance about them. Some of them, like the Mini, are just plain cool, and we don’t know exactly why. A lot of them are crap(for those of you who think all or even most American cars are ugly piles of crap, I can see- though not name, because they don’t interest me that much- a few handful of European cars that would not make it here in the states, because they are just that ugly).

In the US, luxury is, generally, for the rich. So we don’t have many luxury brands. When you compare a Cadillac with its European counterparts, you’ll often see a price discrepancy. Sometimes, this comes at the cost of quality (faux-leather versus Argentinian leather, or something like that). Sometimes, it’s a bit of performance(although the Cadillac CTS(-V) runs similar times to the Corvette if I remember correctly, and the same can be said of the XLR, so that’s not always the case).

In the end, though, it’s about what appeals to the mass markets of the economy you’re in. Most European cars are not super luxurious supercars. They’re more sensible, affordable cars. In the sense of spending, Europeans are more eccentric, so it makes sense for there to me more European supercars. Here in America, big business rules, so big business builds most of our sports cars. We’ve got our share of supercars, too, like the oft-mentioned S7 and the Ford GT.

Cars like the Corvette, though, aren’t supercars so much as they are super cars. You could fit other cars like the Mini and the Beetle in the same category. Unlike the majority of European sports cars, most American sports cars are affordable for the companies that build them as well as for the people that buy them. They’re designed to be fun, within the limits of the roads we have. Europe has a history of auto racing- it was born in Europe, after all- so the number of cars they have that are performance-based is no real surprise.

One of the main staples of these posts has been the Corvette. The Corvette is an American icon, more than anything else, and an excellent sports car. There are plenty of numbers to show just how good Corvette is, even without considering the Z06. Numerous tests from all sides(of the pond) have shown it’s on par with many of the world’s supercars. kor4 doesn’t seem to be able to grasp that fact.

But the Corvette is affordable. Supercars are not. Not just anyone can go out to a dealer and grab a Diablo(even though they’re a bit old now), or a 550 Maranello. You need 1.2 million for a Carrera GT, and any one you buy now would have been owned by someone else. That, all by itself, takes away from the ‘Vette’s credibility as a supercar.

I think the Veyron is a gorgeous car. And there IS a lot of tech that goes into it. But it’s not necessarily efficient tech(as someone else showed, the car produces about 3000 horses, and you only wind up using a third of that). Nor is it undoable by anyone else. I would choose a ‘Vette first, though. If I had the money, I might buy a Veyron, but it would be more for the status than anything. I may be wrong, but I doubt you could(or would want to, for that matter) throw the Bugatti around like you could that Chevy.

Americans have their way, Europeans have theirs. Asians(who haven’t been touched much, though they do have a pretty significant lack of supercars) have their own way. Means different common cars, different sports cars. Get over it, people.

0-60 2.6 seconds
0-100 5.3 seconds
0-150 11.8 seconds
Skidpad 1.176g
Top speed 231MPH
0-100-0 9.4 seconds
1/4 mile 9.9 seconds

All standard (stock)

For about the same as a corvette.
So dont say all european cars have to be half a million to be quick.